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  How Knowledge is Dissipated in Talks

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  londo111 » each congregation has a “talk coordinator”.

  talk coordinators will coordinate with other talk coordinators in order to find speakers to give the public talk on sunday.

  typically, they come from the general area: the circuit or a nearby circuit.

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  Old Navy

  Well now, the discussion is interesting but wild. What a range of demonstrated tolerances and maturities!

  I'd say the title of the thread is entirely apropos; Knowledge is nearly completely dissipated by Watchtower protocol and procedure before it is even spoken to the attentive congregations. What is disseminated is dogma and doctrine conceived of by men with little appreciation for The Word.

  Thankfully, I somehow was able to resist the brainwashing and mind control techniques so leaving The Cult was far easier for me than many who participate here who are still visibly suffering from the abuse.
  
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  I am back... after 8 years.

  by Preston in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been 8 years, but i am back.

  my health has returned.

  what did i miss?.

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  Old Navy

  Aye, "Health Returned" is always very good news!

  Care to give us a rundown on how things went?
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  I appreciate "our" free speech.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

  i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

  but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

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  Old Navy

  Quote from Nancy Drew:
  

  I was a fool when I became a witness...

  Upon reflection I would say that is a Profound Truth which applies to all of us!
  

  An unpleasant experience to be sure but at the same time beneficial. Sometimes it is necessary to walk in the shoes of the heavily burdened and exploited in order to comprehend their misery.
  

  Thank God for hindsight.
  
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  I appreciate "our" free speech.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

  i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

  but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

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  Old Navy

  Now that it has been accurately and reliably determined that Radical Islam is in fact a creation of the Intelligence Services of the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel in order to unleash terrorism for foreign policy interests, is the discussion altered in any way?

  We seem to be presently living in a World of Cults arranged somewhat like the layers of an onion.

  The New World Order is one gigantic Cult.

  The United States Government is a Cult.

  The Educational System is a Cult.

  The Health Care System is a Cult.

  Religions are Cults.
  

  etc, etc, etc...

  Some families are Cults.
  

  Is it really any wonder why we're all so screwed up?
  
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  Day 1: The Night of Anger, Tears, and Pain

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my freedom came with a heavy cost.

  i couldn't stand the dishonesty so when my sister went out of town on a trip i told my parents that i no longer wanted to be a jw.

  when my sister got back and i told her she was so angry, said she really wanted to slap me, then she ran off sobbing, a few minutes later she deposited every gift i ever gave her in front of my door.. my entire family has turned against me.

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  Old Navy

  Aye, you've made a wise choice and it seems that you are handling the turmoil quite well.

  Your family who remain within the Cult know not what they do; their actions are the result of the exceedingly deeply planted mind control indoctrination which is, very sadly, the only recourse they believe that they have.

  As others above have already pointed out; it is essential that you continue to treat all of them with kindness and love when interactions occur. Most importantly, for your own peace of mind and sanity, forgive them completely for what they have done as a manifestation of their fears. For some this part is difficult, but the sooner any feelings of resentment, anger or hatred are let go of the more quickly will your recovery begin.

  Best wishes to you. I believe, as the others have stated, that you will indeed do very well and that your healing will be complete.
  
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  Whats in it for them?

  by Moster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.

  but i am wondering about this:.

  aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?

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  Old Navy

  Imposters

  Actors

  Crypto-Satanists

  By their fruitage you shall know who is their father

  and their god...
  
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  The power of cognitive dissonance

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been watching this reality tv program called "catfish".

  it deals with people who have had a rough deal with internet dating e.g fake profile, money scams etc.

  any way there was one episode that really stuck out to me that made me realized the power of cognitive dissonance in dealing with jws.

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  Old Navy

  From David_Jay:
  

  I think you mean to say "The Power of DENIAL."

  Hmmm. It does seem that denial and cognitive dissonance operate simultaneously.
  
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  The power of cognitive dissonance

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been watching this reality tv program called "catfish".

  it deals with people who have had a rough deal with internet dating e.g fake profile, money scams etc.

  any way there was one episode that really stuck out to me that made me realized the power of cognitive dissonance in dealing with jws.

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  Old Navy

  This is a really big one! Has anyone isolated the "hooks" among the lies propagated by the Watchtower which makes the process of cultivating strong allegiance so effective? For me it was the belief that the organization really was God's "chosen people" because everything, at first, seemed so clean and scriptural. It took several decades to finally recognize the depth of the deceptions.
  
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  This really does not end well for God.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to say this whole creation thing has been or will be a success at the end is absurd.

  not only did one third of the angels jump ship to satans side.

  but adam and eve screwed up so quickly.

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  Old Navy

  From EverApostate:
  

  Cant god inactivate the rebelling angels in a split second, stripping them off their power. (Or even faster since he is infinitely powerful)

  He could. But He chooses not to. Could it be that permitting the

  "war" to take place will eventually result in a better outcome than

  preventing it? Many of us who've been into war zones and survived

  come away with a much different attitude than when we went in. The

  Gung Ho desire to destroy and obliterate gives way to shame and a

  real hatred for war and violence.
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  This really does not end well for God.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to say this whole creation thing has been or will be a success at the end is absurd.

  not only did one third of the angels jump ship to satans side.

  but adam and eve screwed up so quickly.

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  Old Navy

  Aye, it is understandable to go into a depressive funk when

  cogitating upon The World as it has developed and The Word.

  In due time we'll gain understanding and appreciation for why

  things have been done in the seemingly haphazard way that

  we may think. Job eventually saw the light after a great deal

  of suffering. Maybe his story is indicative of the struggles we

  all face as we strive to make some sense of all the crazy stuff

  going on. Cold Steel raises possibilities that I find agreeable.

  The Watchtower and most of Christendom have wandered way

  off The Path into their traditions of men. I do have hope in a

  Heavenly Father for whom all things are possible. When the dust

  settles following what is yet to come I think we'll all be very

  pleasantly surprised.